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- From: austern (Matt Austern)
- Newsgroups: comp.std.c++
- Subject: Re: auto_ptr again
- Date: 18 Jan 1996 11:00:55 PST
- Organization: SGI
- Approved: austern@isolde.mti.sgi.com
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- In-Reply-To: clamage@Eng.Sun.COM's message of 18 Jan 96 02:38:07 GMT
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- Originator: austern@isolde.mti.sgi.com
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- In article <4djrn4$js1@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> clamage@Eng.Sun.COM (Steve Clamage) writes:
-
- > That point has been beaten to death in the C++ committee and also in
- > this forum. Some people felt an auto_ptr should be able to have multiple
- > owners, but people with experience with this kind of design persuaded
- > the committee that auto_ptrs are too hard to use unless they can have
- > only a single owner. Thus, ownership is transferred upon copying.
- >
- > That is, single ownership is a deliberate design decision based on the
- > semantics an auto-ptr should have. It is not an implementation issue.
-
- I thought it was generally agreed that auto_ptrs as currently defined
- were broken---specifically, that the semantics of strict ownership,
- constness, and the binding of temporary objects, ended up making an
- auto_ptr nearly useless for returning a value from a function. That's
- unfortunate, since returning something from a function is one of the
- situations when it's most important to have some safe wrapper class
- like auto_ptr.
-
- I've spent a bit of time trying to come up with bright ideas for
- fixing auto_ptr, but I don't really have any. Reference-counted
- pointers don't have this particular problem, though, and that might be
- the best argument for putting rc_ptr in the standard in addition to
- (or instead of) auto_ptr.
- --
- Matt Austern
- SGI: MTI Compilers Group
- austern@isolde.mti.sgi.com
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